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Tuesday, 09 February 2010 - 24 Safar 1431 H
NATION Girl gets a year in jail, 100 lashes for adultery
By Adnan Shabrawi
JEDDAH – A 23-year-old unmarried woman was awarded one-year prison term and 100 lashes for committing adultery and trying to abort the resultant fetus.
The District Court in Jeddah pronounced the verdict on Saturday after the girl confessed that she had a forced sexual intercourse with a man who had offered her a ride. The man, the girl confessed, took her to a rest house, east of Jeddah, where he and four of friends assaulted her all night long.
The girl claimed that she became pregnant soon after and went to King Fahd Hospital for Armed Forces in an attempt to carry out an abortion. She was eight weeks’ pregnant then, the hospital confirmed.
According to the ruling, the woman will be sent to a jail outside Jeddah to spend her time and will be lashed after delivery of her baby who will take the mother’s last name. – Okaz/SG
The District Court in Jeddah pronounced the verdict on Saturday after the girl confessed that she had a forced sexual intercourse with a man who had offered her a ride. The man, the girl confessed, took her to a rest house, east of Jeddah, where he and four of friends assaulted her all night long.
The girl claimed that she became pregnant soon after and went to King Fahd Hospital for Armed Forces in an attempt to carry out an abortion. She was eight weeks’ pregnant then, the hospital confirmed.
According to the ruling, the woman will be sent to a jail outside Jeddah to spend her time and will be lashed after delivery of her baby who will take the mother’s last name. – Okaz/SG
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» expat | musharraf posted...
it is random happening in kingdom mostly at wednessday being celebrating here as sex day,unfotunate if saudi girls caught by anyone then claim abuse or abduction otherwise conclusion like this pragnency where is the beheading law of shariah???
» It's not adultery. . . | olegonzo posted... It's not adultery unless the woman was married. 299
» Sheer Injustice | Raphael D' Souza posted... Referring to the above article, the only crime the poor girl did was that she accepted a free ride from a stranger for which she was awarded 1 year jail & 100 lashes. As per her confession, she was raped by those 5 filthy creatures. Her only fault was that she accepted a free ride from a stranger. If her crime was so great as to win her such a painful punishment, then those dirty filthy pigs deserve to be hanged or given capital punishment as per Islamic Shariah. Protect the law don't abuse it.
» Justice! | Haja Abu Bucker posted... What happened to the four persons who had forced their ways upon that hapless girl? Had they been tracked by the security personnel and held accountable? If only the girl victim were to be penalized, will amount to gross violation of human values that could easily be regarded as justice NOT-delivered in proper form!
» Girl gets a year in jail, 100 lashes for adultery | Horace Kindler posted... Another example of the barbarity and injustice of the judge. The woman is raped and she is the one punished. Was anything done to apprehend the five men? Is anything done to free her from having an unwanted pregnancy and child? What a mockery!
» Girl gets a year in jail, 100 lashes for adultery | Susie of Arabia posted... Why don't you just call a spade, a spade? The article pussyfoots around using the correct term for what happened to this unfortunate woman - and that is RAPE. Saying that the woman "confessed" to a "forced sexual intercourse" sounds so ridiculous. In any other civilized society, she is NOT the one who did something wrong - only in Saudi Arabia! Mr. Shabrawi obviously needs a better command of the English language, since he also misused the term "adultery" too.
Editor's Note:
Thanks for your comment. Our reporter used the term the court used to hand down its verdict. The court ruling did not mention it as a 'rape incident.' The court, however, did not release further details about its decision. We just report the story like it is told.
Thanks.
» Girl gets a year in jail, 100 lashes for adultery | Susie of Arabia posted... Editor's Note:
Thanks for your comment. Our reporter used the term the court used to hand down its verdict. The court ruling did not mention it as a 'rape incident.' The court, however, did not release further details about its decision. We just report the story like it is told.
Thanks.
Dear Editor - Thank you for your clarification and my apologies to Mr. Shabrawi. Reports like this one irk me to no end. Clearly the court in this case is the ridiculous party accountable for perpetuating the myth that rape victims are responsible for their plight, and not barbaric men who simply cannot control themselves. When will Saudi Arabia recognize that this problem is with the men and stop blaming and punishing the women?
» Human Rights Trump Religion | Michael Martin posted... A person's human rights come before any religion. No woman should ever be punished for a rape. It's time for muslim people to come into the 21st century.
» Wait till the Lord has His say. | Rachel posted... WHAT is wrong with this picture? Well let's see.... 1. the girl wasn't even MARRIED. But she committed Adultry?!? Oh, you mean that the man that was involved was married, so therefore it was adultry? Oh, right, ok.....
2.) A FORCED sexual action which then led to a GANG rape. And then an illegitimate pregnancy! What is wrong with your system??? 3.) I'd like to know what happened to the men in this case? probably nothing. Because that's how backwards that system is. I'm disgusted.
» re: "expat" | kevin posted... musharraf please, please tell me the 'beheading law of shariah' is that you behead the rapist and not the victim..
» | Paul posted... In reply to the editor's note... The absence of the word rape bothers me less than the idea that you will only report "like it is told". Isn't it a reporter's responsibility to look deeper? As an American I'm sure that believing what we were told is what put us into an unjust war and disgraced us in the eyes of the world.
» not a complete report | jwhak posted... this is not a complete report. what happened to the men? I am left with the uneasy feeling that anybody can do this. seriously. did she approach the court to try to get the men arrested? who levied charges against her? the comments here are at least semi-helpful. the notion of a "sex day" and the law of Islamic Shariah are new to me and I will have to look them up.
» | Kevin posted... The Judge and anyone who supports punishing the victims should get butt raped and lashed and imprisoned indefinitely.
» Unbelievable | Chris posted... It is funny that if people are discriminated against in America, everyone is in uproar... move that to one of these third world places and it is an everyday event Americans dismiss.
» | Muhammed posted... this is the most ridiculous story i have ever read. those men should be the ones on trial. this poor woman's misery is obviously the result of a set of outdated laws that protect the crimes of men. although bioligically different creatures, men and women are still both human beings, and should be treated equally under the law. they should just be treated equally, period. what kind of message is this verdict sending to the Saudi People? What kind of message is this sending to saudi criminals?
» Follow-up! | Haja Abu Bucker posted... Thanks for the editor's note. As the readers are equally concerned of that hapless girl; Will the SG follow-up this case as to what happened afterwards? Is justice restored and the rapists were caught?
» Tfeh | Sami Kabani posted... The punishment is truly unjust and against human rights! I agree the girl must be punished for placing herself in this situation but to actually be jailed for a year and lashed is disgusting. No mention of what happens to the rapists. They go free I guess, what a nice country a safe haven for rapists and a corrupt law that empowers men. Also, what a sick interpretation of sharia, for any adultery committed four male witnesses should be present. From the story none were there or were they? Shame!
» So this is the most merciful, most compassionate verdict they could dole out, and let me restate this, TO THE VICTIM... OF A RAPE?! That could be YOUR DARLING MOTHER,
YOUR SWEET SISTER,
YOUR LOVING WIFE, waiting in a cell for her rape-borne child to be born and then getting ONE HUNDRED TORTURE LASHES. FOR GETTING RAPED. I'm disgusted.
» Demand Justice | Shawn Fleek posted... Victims of rape are not supposed to be punished, they're supposed to get help, and they should not have to carry the child of the person who rapes them. That baby is going to have a terrible life, thanks to that judge. find the rapists and hang them.
» People are people, even in repressed societies | The other side of the coin... posted... What if she made a mistake and tried to cover it up by lying? She got pregnant by having consensual sex with another man, got pregnant, maybe talked with him about it and understood he wouldn't support her, so she did what she could. The timing of the events might be illustrative... People hear these stories and immediately use it to vent their repressed hatred of a culture they don't even know or understand. Is it possible she lied?
» Supposedly the girl would need several male (perhaps even family related) witnesses to press charges on the five men who raped her. So, probably, those guys will just keep on raping.
» | musharraf abu posted... This is why so many others see us as barbarians. Why do we punish a woman when she was raped? She could not have fought off five men. The men should be hanged for such an offense. The woman should be given money from the mens homes to pay for her to raise that child they made and to punish them.
» | Nigel posted... The judge represents a society which has yet to reach even the beginnings of civilized behaviour. South Africa was forced to abandon aparteid - why do we allow this barbaric treatment of women to continue?
» She was asking for it | .... posted... Clearly this woman lusted in her heart for the intimacy of men. She serviced them and afterwards claim they forced themselves on her. She should be permanently marked to show her shame.
» Barbarians punish rape victim | Pearl posted... What hypocrisy. One woman with five men. Why should she be the one punished? Was she expected to fight them off? It is unfortunate that this is a society where men are not encouraged or required to take responsibility for their actions - like the sexual torture inflicted on this unfortunate woman. I understand that the values are different, but still consider this barbarian.
» Some reverse justice? | Jack Hoff posted... The men should be raped and then executed for homosexuality.
» I don't understand | Kellen posted... I live in the US and literally can't understand what the thinking is behind this sentence for someone who is a victim. What could she have possibly done to avoid this fate? I understand what adultery is but if she is physically forced to do something she should be punished? I don't get it.
» Poor girl... | Inka posted... Please tell this girl that other women in the world are sorry she had to be put through such a traumatic ordeal. It's not fair that she be convicted for something she obviously had no choice in. If she was assaulted, then she didn't want it, therefore was raped. It's like charging a man who was beaten to within an inch of this life with assault and battery. And to be forced to carry her rapists' child is more horrible. It's a shame such injustice exists in our world.
» Thanks! | FinnJavel posted... It is good to be able to read news from other parts of the world. This way it is possible other cultures and their delicate details.
I think I will start following this site frequently.
» | erick posted... From as far as I can tell, incidents like this are practically guaranteed to make world news. It's worse for public relations than having Bush for a president. Imprisoning rape victims, beating rape victims, families attempting to give back-alley abortions to rape victims to avoid imprisonment and social stigma. I consider myself somewhat progressive and open-minded for an american and relatively aware of world news, but I must say this is a firm basis for negative stereotypes.
» Cultural Insensitivity | Detrus posted... Who in Western society would get in a car with a stranger? That girl needs to be aware of the consequences. The only difference is in her society she is punished for her stupidity twice.
» | this is ridiculous posted... what is wrong with these people
» | this is ridiculous posted... what is wrong with these people
» inconceivable | Lorayne Tyler posted... This is beyond depressing, those "men" or filthy swine who abused the girl are the ones who deserve punishment. This story is unbelievable and I hope for everyones sake that the ones who committed that horrid act are being persecuted as well and in an even more serious manner.
» Justice? | John Doe posted... This is not Justice...
» Adultery | Laban posted... The term adultery was used correctly, Susie, and it is perhaps you who needs to be culturally enlightened. Under Muslim law adultery is defined as, in the context of a woman, having sex with anyone who is not your husband; this is regardless of the woman's marital status.
» | blind justice posted... editor: if you only reported the story as it was told, you are not doing your job. if there is more here than meets the eye, it should be reported. if this is nothing more than saudi "justice", taking the rape victim and lashing her for being female, why bother to report it at all?
» INVITATION TO DANCE | TONY LICE PIGG posted... Musarraf, if you ever happen to visit NYC be sure to look me up. Especially on Wednesdays.... I want to give you 100 lashes too sweetie! TLP
» | Justin G. usa posted... The ideology of a society that punishes victims because they are women is frightening to me.
» Hypocrites? Another point of view... | Jake posted... Wonder what Saudi's would say if they read "In the USA, a hungry black man in NYC was sent to prison for life for stealing a slice of pizza."
(not mentioning the 3 strikes your out law).
» Girl gets a year in jail, 100 lashes for adultery | Chris Taylor posted... (not mentioning the 3 strikes your out law).
Is this the compassion that we in the west are asked to believe exists in Islam. Every Saudi Man should hang his head in shame and demand that the perpetrators are bought to justice; no matter how long it takes or the cost. Justice must prevail.
» Wow | Nivad posted... The editors report the story like it is told. How sad. How about reporting the story like it is: depressing proof of disgusting laws.
» Jeddah...The Paris of the Red Sea | Muhammed ibn' allah posted... Meh...She's probably Filipino or something. As a Saudi, I have the right to force a girl to commit adultery. If you don't want this to happen, maybe you should allow me to watch some pornography on the internet.
» | Brian Zenz posted... Do Saudi officials realize how incessantly cruel and entirely disgusting these types of convictions truly are to the civilized, developed, world? Religious and cultural differences aside, there is no majority help belief in any system that advocates gang-rape and prosecution of victims. And to the editor: You don't need a "court ruling" to know that this girl was raped. The court may ignore human rights, but it doesn't mean that human violations aren't newsworthy.
» Disgusting | Arek posted... Despicable justice system you have. The girl was raped and she get punished for it. Disgusting
» ugh | Appalled posted... Ugh, this is disgusting. A young woman needs a ride somewhere and instead of taking her safely to her destination, the man acts like an animal and kidnaps and rapes the poor girl all night with 4 of his buddies. Only in Saudi Arabia would this appalling situation be blamed on the WOMAN. This judge should be ashamed of himself. Are the men going to be punished at all for their crimes??
» Blood boiling... | Marc Germain posted... This news makes my blood boil. What kind of court allows this to happen in the name of jusice?
» Are you kidding me? | Zai posted... How dare anyone think that a rape victim, married or not, deserves this? What kind of backward ruling is this? This is why people hate the middle east. They don't know how to treat their fellow human beings. Human rights come before any religion or culture. I hope every man who condones this criminal behavior (the punishment of a rape victim) have their manhood shrivel up and fall off.
» Susie I think he used the exact term he meant too. Thats how they are viewing what happened.
» | Michele posted... She was RAPED, and she did not want to bring a bastard into this world. Even if she did have sex, and she did get pregnant, that is no reason to jail her and then beat her. Why are you waiting till the baby is born? Why not beat her now?
» ms | Bobbi posted... I am sometime so ashamed of mankind it makes my heart cry. How can anyone, read this story and not get angry. Are we crazy, do we let religion, any religion turn us into animals. And I wonder, what would God say. How must his heart break to see this kind of treatment. This young woman should be taken into a home, wrapped into a warm blanket, given tea and nurtured back to life. Shame on us for allowing such ugly behaviour. What a sad world.
» ... | FreedomIndia posted... The US raised a big stink when invading Iraq and "freeing" the oppressed people of Iraq who apparently were enjoying no freedom despite the fact that Iraq had some of the most liberal laws in the region and allowed Christians and mini-skirts.
» ... | Gregoire posted... Middle ages anyone ?
» N | GF posted... TYPICALLY DISGUSTING, VILE AND W R O N G.
» .... | The Fallen Sun posted... its amazing how rapists get away and the woman gets punished. and you guys think there is nothing wrong here.
you think you believe in allah? you believe in nothing!!! allah never condoned rape/murder nor did allah ever condemn the victim. you twist the words of allah to commit evil, evil in the name of allah. you are the sinners and if you believe, you will find reckoning with allah!
» | Rick posted... you think you believe in allah? you believe in nothing!!! allah never condoned rape/murder nor did allah ever condemn the victim. you twist the words of allah to commit evil, evil in the name of allah. you are the sinners and if you believe, you will find reckoning with allah!
I'm curious as to see how the anti-abortion camp justifies this inhumane situation.
» To the Editor | Alexandar posted... Dear Editor, You write, "We just report the story like it is told." If the story is told in such a way as to create some notion of being raped as some kind of crime, it is your duty as a dignified journalist to question this notion. If you do not, then the people might just accept that being raped is a crime. When George Bush claimed that Saddham Hussein had links to 9/11, the American media just "reported the story like it is told." Be a journalist, not a stenographer to power. Thanks
» .... | ahumanbeing@mailinator.com posted... Saudi Arabia is only feeding into the growing hate towards muslims in the prevailing international political climate. And it's not like this is a one-off case, every month, several such news stories appear in the press. How deluded and brainwashed by religion would you have to be to deny a RAPE victim justice, and instead punish her? Just take away the oil and Saudi Arabia is nothing but a landfill of human refuse most people wouldn't even care to take a shit on.
» | Outraged Arab posted... She was RAPED, what is wrong with the world?!
» something must be done | Cassandra badie posted... this is so wrong on so many levels , she is the victim why should be punished can the government be so screwed up they don't see this
we are living in terrible times well at least us is not the most screwed country any more
everyone in that country should be ashamed
what is the thinking how is she to protect herself from rape like cutting off the hand of the man who was robbed
makes no sense
» Mr | Phillip from Melbourne posted... we are living in terrible times well at least us is not the most screwed country any more
everyone in that country should be ashamed
what is the thinking how is she to protect herself from rape like cutting off the hand of the man who was robbed
makes no sense
No wonder they do not let their women out of doors. These men cannot be trusted. And they get away with it too. they probably get extra jollies from the fact that their victim is going to be imprisoned and lashed to within an inch of her life.
» Uhh... | Neppy posted... Surely it's the men who committed adultery. Saudi Arabians must be blind, they've prosecuted the wrong person!
» More to it | Jerrad posted... I think there's more to this story. The girl may not be so innocent. She must have agreed to all that happened n when she got caught she calld it forced and rape. this is pretty common here in america too.. guys can get into deep shit if a girl accuses them of rape or abuse
» | danielle posted... It's not adultery. . . | olegonzo posted...
It's not adultery unless the woman was married. 299
actually, it's not adultery because she was RAPED.
» Re: She Was Asking for It It's not adultery unless the woman was married. 299
actually, it's not adultery because she was RAPED.
This is the most RIDICULOUS THING I have EVER heard. You sorely need to evaluate the way you view women! Moving backwards into history will get us nowhere! It does not matter if women are secretly lusting for sex or not! No one deserves to be violated and then BLAMED for it in this extreme a manner. This article and your comment, sir, make me sick.
» | Line posted... Laban: Thank you for explaining the meaning of "adultery" in Saudi.
Still, I agree with danielle above: Unless there's evidence of the woman consenting to sex (especially by several men at once), she should not be accused of adultery. Innocent until proven guilty. The laws need to be set straight.
» I Don't Understand | So Sad posted... Still, I agree with danielle above: Unless there's evidence of the woman consenting to sex (especially by several men at once), she should not be accused of adultery. Innocent until proven guilty. The laws need to be set straight.
I live in the USA. I just don't understand these laws. It makes me very sad. Where is the justice? One day, God will deliver justice to the all the people who suffered from consequences of in injust laws created by man.
My prayers go out, not only to this woman, but to ALL the women there who are considered 2nd class citizens and property of the men in their countries.
I'm really saddened by this story.
» | European posted... My prayers go out, not only to this woman, but to ALL the women there who are considered 2nd class citizens and property of the men in their countries.
I'm really saddened by this story.
Mr. Shabrawi :
How old are you ?
» | jack posted... How old are you ?
Pics or it didn't happen
» | Jack posted... pics or it didn't happen
» Disgusting | Richard posted... This whole culture is based on blaming others in stead of taking responsibility. The fact that a man doesn't have to take any responsibility says more this culture then they would like. But still they still don't seem to get the hostility against them? They should have executed those men one by one ...
» The girl could be innocent...but | Faraz posted... But why did she accepted the company of that insane pig who wanted to rape her and as far as i know in saudia women is not allowed to talk with any men in public places....
Raphael D' Souza rightly said that all the PIG's who raped her must be stonned death infront of croud and croud must be warned off for not doing this ever otherwise there will be miserable death and there Death penalty must be live on television ....
» Different point of view | mustafa posted... Raphael D' Souza rightly said that all the PIG's who raped her must be stonned death infront of croud and croud must be warned off for not doing this ever otherwise there will be miserable death and there Death penalty must be live on television ....
Maybe she was wearing a short burqa and was showing her ankles or shins, thus turning on the men and violating them with her seductive ways. Also, why is she getting into a car with a non-related male? At least the nice Judge is waiting for her to deliver the baby before giving her the lashes, if that's not mercy, I don't know what is.
» | Espadrilla posted... This is just Saudi Arabia. Much oil, much money but not even one publication in any scientific journal.
» Just wondering... Why is this site in English?
» | Question posted... Not calling her an adultress or anything, but any person who has sex out of marriage I believe is an adultress. But seeing how she was raped def not a case of adultry
» Secular Progressive | Mardi Hammerberg posted... I can't believe some of the stupid comments I have read (remember "stupid" is forever). Maybe the girl just should have committed suicide then we wouldn't need to be reminded just how backward and intolerant Saudi's really are. That goes for Americans that seem to think this sort of justice is OK.
» Wicked, Evil Judge, Wicked, Evil Laws | Innocent Daughter posted... Barbarity is not relegated to the past; these EVIL men are enabled by the law and the court system to continue their nefarious evil schemes. No pornography? Just abduct an innocent girl and rape her. Invite your friends to the party. Everybody dig in - have a ball! Invite the judge, even. Remorse of conscience? No problem. Scapegoat the woman - bad bad woman. She should know better than to exist on the same planet. This is legalized rape. CASTRATE THOSE BASTARDS, DON'T BEAT THE GIRL.
» Some commenters want the reporter to inject opinion into a report | Alan posted... The purpose of a report is to tell what happened. Some commenters here are asking the reporter to inject personal opinion into the report. Stop shooting the messenger because you take exception to the court's ruling. (which is obviously ridiculous to us) Remember what you said about the reporter the next time you complain about the "liberal media" or the "conservative media" injecting their opinion into a report that they call news and you call bias. You just want him to reflect your views.
» Outrageous!! | Amanda posted... I wish I could RESCUE that woman and bring her to a country that would protect their citizens, not allow them to be raped and then tortured by the government. You are a hideous, barbaric, horrible, unjust nation! I don't even care if that is unkind to claim. What you are doing to this poor woman is incredible. Disgusting!!!!!!!
» WHat if.... | Dennis posted... If things happened like described, a poor woman getting raped by 5 savages, then getting punished for it, it is a low down for humanity.
But what if, she did slept with a man willingly, knowing very well the consequences. What if the rape story was in fact her plea to get an abortion. What if the man she did it with had a wife. The article is not complete, and honestly, i can almost NOT imagin that this rape has occured.. and if it did, its too horrible to think about...
» My Heart Breaks. | Heartbroken. posted... But what if, she did slept with a man willingly, knowing very well the consequences. What if the rape story was in fact her plea to get an abortion. What if the man she did it with had a wife. The article is not complete, and honestly, i can almost NOT imagin that this rape has occured.. and if it did, its too horrible to think about...
My heart breaks to read this article, and to think of the unthinkable injustices this poor girl is suffering. To me, this is a prime example of how Western and Muslim ideologies are entirely opposite. While a District Court in Saudi allows GANG RAPE to occur, a court in my country would be taking the upmost action against these RAPISTS, and would be protecting the VICTIM. How can our two civilizations ever reconcile, when our worldviews (legally and ethically) are so fundamentally opposed?
» | LT posted... this is one of the most disgusting stories i have ever heard. this poor poor woman was not only assaulted by 5 monsters, forced to keep a child that she did not want for obvious reasons but then beaten and sent to prison! where is the justice?!
» Disgusting | Wows Mahony posted... I'm at a loss for words. What is wrong with that country? If this is the kind of thing that happens over there, then Saudi Arabia truly is barbaric. People take shots at America for being ignorant, while countries in the Middle East beat and imprison a girl for being raped. What a wonderful culture! And by wonderful, I mean sick and twisted.
» Not fair | Naqib posted... the punishment for rape in Islam is execution, the godamn jugde should hunt those bastards down and kill them...NOT THE POOR GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!
» Really??? I don't think they have ever heard of Shariah. The only mistake that the woman made was taking a ride from a stranger which was stupid. It was not adultery since she wasn't marrried, and did not willingly have intercourse.She should not have the abortion since the child did nothing wrong to deserve a death even before he was born.The father and the other 4 people should've been hanged to death by shariah law.The woman should not be punished at all but still have the baby.Shecan consideradoption
» This is disgusting | Rose posted... ....how is this ADULTERY? How can someone go to JAIL for getting raped and wanting an abortion... oh my god.. this is the most disgusting story i've ever heard in my life. I knew the world was messed up but.. to this extent?
» I'm really not surprised. | Irisi posted... This is Saudi Arabia. Where women are not permitted to drive a car. What happened was horrible, that's a given. People need to wake up. A woman punished for being gang raped? However, I do feel the need to question why she waited eight weeks to have an abortion. And did she even go to the police in the first place?
» | K Adams posted... Saudi Arabia should take a good at them self's. The World is watching all of this.
Been, not the first time something like this has happened.
That poor girl, makes think, why go to the hassle of reporting this.
Where are her rights...
It is ridiculous, what the hell is wrong here. As danielle posted, -It's not adultery because she was RAPED.
» Gang rape victim to face more torture in SA | Disgusted as well in Canada posted... Sick demented culture.
ANY one blaming the victim, whether she was conned into a ride or not, IS as sick and demented.
Now what? The family kills her because she has dishonored them?
Sick like the barbaric tribal elders in Pakistan. Medieval woman hating societies.
Regarding the baby: Will they turn the girl child into chattel or if a boy is a camel jockey for the rich and enlighten? Just wondering as it's the culture as well no?
» Interpretation | Expat UK posted... I doubt anyone will read this far down but I want to you people should be ashamed of such behaviour. Everyone has a right to life and a right to equality and it's time you faced up to the fact that you outmoded, blind, intolerant justice needs to be readdressed. If you ever want to grow as a people and a society then stop acting like a barbarous one and start living the enlightened life.
» | S2 posted... You're all saying she got raped and if that's the case it's a sad story but i mean it only says she claims to have been raped. Why didn't she report it sooner when there may have been evidence to support her claims?
» Disgusted | David posted... Seriously. The girl is raped, and the court gives her 1 year in prison and 100 lashes of a whip. I am outraged. this is a travesty. How can saudi arabia EVER claim to have a fair and right judiciary? I would love to hear from a islamic legal expert on this matter, and see him try to justify this madness.
» Attention Laban: | Susie of Arabia posted... Believe me, I am getting more culturally enlightened than I care to about this barbaric society that blames women for being raped. According to your definition, the term adultery is STILL wrong, unless you think she WILLINGLY had sex with five men! Get a clue, Bozo!
» some context | mike posted... The girl was punished for putting herself in a situation where she could be raped. The thinking is that she invites it by going in public without a male chaparone. Yes its ridiculous and backwards but dont be to quick to point the finger. That same attitude was around in America before the civil rights movement. Women who were raped weren't treated as victims because the thinking went that the women must have enticed them and boys will be boys. The only difference is we didn't have laws about it
» Not a Muslim but, | Charles Campos posted... I am not Muslim and i do not condone rape in any way,but i am sure i have heard that muslim women are not allowed to be in the company of any man alone that is not a family member? I am not blaming her for being raped but surely she knows this right?
» wtf.. | something cool posted... girl gets raped by 5 guys... girl gets... 1 year of jail
100 lashes
bastard child And this is justice how?
» something's not right | mk posted... Why didn't the girl go straight to the police in the first place instead of waiting till she found out she was pregnant, then tried to get the abortion? i know for a fact that any girl in a similar situation would dial 911 or whatever whenever she gets the chance. it could be rape.. or it could be adultery.. i guess we can't be too sure. but anyway the men deserve a much more sever punishment for what they did.
» Mankind is not ready for religion | Tiammut posted... This story is appalling to hear. Some people posted that the woman may not be as innocent as perceived. Okay lets say that this is true...She deserves a year in jail and 100 lashes for having sex? Sex is the biological makeup of our entire species. Without it we will not exist. WHY DO WE BRAND IT SO HARSHLY? Because the bible said so? The 5 men are animals, and dont deserve life.
» Weird Culture | matt posted... Only in the middle east can a women get raped then put in jail while the people who raped her get a pat on the back. Mean while you have morons who come on here with the logic that anyone who gets raped was either asking for it or is lieing about it. Middle eastern culture is weird. The men should be in jail
» Saudi laws | Gryffin posted... As soon as she accepted a ride from a man not her father, husband or brother, she was in the wrong by Saudi law. Totally patriarchal society. If they didn't have oil, we'd never have heard of this. That said, quaint sci-fi story called "Two Hawks from Earth" has some interesting ways of punishing rapists (not victims) that definitely appeal.
» | Acmed Alsherish posted... She should have been home with father and not out enticing man with her evil ways. she know good muslim women never go out in the presense of men to entice. she should be stoned.
» D I S G U S T I N G | Nora posted... "She should have been home with father and not out enticing man with her evil ways. she know good muslim women never go out in the presense of men to entice. she should be stoned."
That's disgusting. Honestly, how can anyone REALLY believe that? Did she entice them by just being there? And if it were your daughter, or your wife, or whatever, would you feel the same way? Ugh. I'm glad I live in America.
» Crime against humanity | Solly Mew posted... That's disgusting. Honestly, how can anyone REALLY believe that? Did she entice them by just being there? And if it were your daughter, or your wife, or whatever, would you feel the same way? Ugh. I'm glad I live in America.
That any country in the world could treat a rape victim like a criminal should bring shame upon the whole human race. What is particularly sickening is the post from Acmed who says she should have been stoned.
Until Saudi law is changed, it will never be accepted as a civilised or compassionate country. The women are in a worse situation than black people were when they were enslaved. It is a disgrace and Saudi's should hang their heads in shame
» Corruption | Sigh posted... Until Saudi law is changed, it will never be accepted as a civilised or compassionate country. The women are in a worse situation than black people were when they were enslaved. It is a disgrace and Saudi's should hang their heads in shame
@Michael Martin: This has nothing to do with muslims and religion, this is corruption at its best.
» Unfortunate girl | sAm posted... World has become so bad that girls are unsafe. Innocent victims like these need help.May God save her from further damage. I really wish justice is done to that poor girl and those bloody guys should be beheaded in public for their crimes. These kinds of incidents show how low the world has fallen. Sick and Disgusting. Oblivious judge and pathetic rules. Very very unfortunate girl. My heart goes out to her.
» | someone posted... this is disgusting i am muslim and if what the girl claims is true i am true horrified by the saudi court. but can she prove she was raped by 4 guys? she probably could by going in for a spearm check after she was raped, and they would find 4 types in her, but why wait 8 weeks to report it? and it was only reported because of the abortion she wanted. I dont know waht to think as there is not enough proof. i'll pray that if she is innocent she is forgiven, and if she's not than she gets punished.
» What happend to our Muslim world | hassan ALi posted... Whats wrong with our own people???
tell me where it said in quran, to even lay a finger on a woman who was in need of help. top of that she will be punished???? WoW!!! we need to understand how Islam does not work like this. that is why others have more advantage to blame on us even more... and How can even defend that..... very shameful..
» To Rick | Rubella posted... Rick, I fail to see why this needs to be turned into an attack on the "anti abortion camp".
The treatment of the poor woman is disgusting and I almost feel embarrassed for the judges who hold authority in that country.
It's worth noting that this article doesn't tell anything near the whole story. Her male friend was also raped, and the judge claims that there was no proof that she didn't consent to it, despite being provided with a video recording of the incident.
» WTG Human Race!!! | Yip Cha! posted... The treatment of the poor woman is disgusting and I almost feel embarrassed for the judges who hold authority in that country.
It's worth noting that this article doesn't tell anything near the whole story. Her male friend was also raped, and the judge claims that there was no proof that she didn't consent to it, despite being provided with a video recording of the incident.
Church: meet State.
Now stay the hell away from each other.
» Lets not jump to conclusions! | Saad posted... Lets get some thing straight - In Saudi Arabia , No one is above the law!
I spent 12 years in Riyadh which is very close to Jeddah and i am familiar with there customs and traditions -- first of all, Saudi families are very protective of their daughters and do not allow there women to speak to men! -- ( There are no co education schools or colleges!)
» cont... | Saad posted... I spent 12 years in Riyadh which is very close to Jeddah and i am familiar with there customs and traditions -- first of all, Saudi families are very protective of their daughters and do not allow there women to speak to men! -- ( There are no co education schools or colleges!)
Hence i find the victims story hard to believe:- Women are not allowed to speak to men( even their cousins) and here she is accepting rides? ... That to from a complete stranger?.... Huh? If you have ever been to the east of Jeddah, you'd notice that there are check points every where -- yet there is not "one" witness? -- Surely a "Shutay "- ( Police official) would have spotted this woman being held in a car, against her will?.... Furthermore abortion is considered murder in K.S.A...
» continued.... | Saad posted... To sum up, the court doesn't believe her story cause it doesn't make sense.
However if she is telling the truth,.... then all we can do, is be sorry for her -- she was at fault, the moment she accepted the ride -- which it self is against Saudi laws
" A women is not allowed to sit with a "Na-Mehrum" ( stranger) " I really don't understand, how she thought she would be able to get away with abortion( murder)? -- Even attempting to get abortion is a crime.She has no one else to blame but herself
» | asenia posted... No use shooting the messenger when they are only reporting the news based on the legal boundaries. What's harsh is she'll be separated from her baby after birth as the child will need nourishment and love. How about house arrest, at least she can be with the child. Her baby can't be taken away now, why take away later. Please examine the psychological impact on both mother and child, and wider society, and negative stereotypes of the country will increase!
» wow | concerned posted... my question to everyone who has allowed these laws to come into place is "why do you hate and fear women so much"
» courting | aslia posted... do you agree that women should court men?
» ? | amanda sai posted... i am not too familiar with sharia law... but logic tells me that if a person (male or female) has been forced to do a sexual act (or if the sexual act is against a person's free will), irregardless of circumstances... that is definitely referred to as rape. no person, following whatever cultural or religious beliefs, has the right to violate another person's sexuality. we call those guilty of violating this right... pigs!
» However unfair, here is WHY she got what she did: | Benjamin Feibleman posted... I learned this in my Islam class yesterday, it was an analisys of this particular case: For a rape/adultery to be confirmed penetration has to be witnessed by 4 people. (This is to keep false accusations from stacking up.) The men won't testify against each other, so they won't be charged. The unmarried woman did however become pregnant, and so her body basically testified against herself that she had had sex out of the confines of the law, marriage. 100 ashes. Messed up, but that's the "why".
» mr | Dallefia posted... Shame on this mediaval country!!!
» Any updates? | DK posted... Anything new with this case? surely it was appealed by a lawyer?
» teacher | me posted... this story does m=not make any sense to me. Unless she was a prostitute she would not be walking alone, or in her right mind accept a ride from the man. Either this story was made falsly, or this is not what really happenend
» This is All Wrong! | Monica posted... Ok...rape no woman want's it! She should not be punished if she was raped. But and a big one! because in a country where it is law that a woman is not allowed to be in public with men other than relatives, why would she accept a ride from a stranger. There is more to this story. If her rape is true then those 5 disgusting creatures deserve their punishment. See what happens when men are allowed few interactions with women?
» It all LOOK Bogus!! - I | Asayed posted... The news paer first: who reported a told story (not an officially investigated or verified.
* The girl asked for a ride? Is it possible that a un married girl in in "KSA" try to take a ride from unkown person????
*There are taxis if in case don't have own car (if was broken)
*Then the person who gave a ride was driving to give a ride to a young woman and had four of his gang members waiting for a meal????
This story is good for a rated R movie but in real world can't fit from any angel.
» It all LOOK Bogus!! - II | Asyed posted... * The girl asked for a ride? Is it possible that a un married girl in in "KSA" try to take a ride from unkown person????
*There are taxis if in case don't have own car (if was broken)
*Then the person who gave a ride was driving to give a ride to a young woman and had four of his gang members waiting for a meal????
This story is good for a rated R movie but in real world can't fit from any angel.
Now like this story something in real happened in Dubai, where the taxi driver did a gang rape to a woman, and the punishment to the driver and his mates were so server that writing is not possible but the woman was let go free.
If you like find any in Dubai what happened to the Taxi driver and his rapist gang by the court order.
» saudi laws are only for foreigners | khalid mahmood posted... If you like find any in Dubai what happened to the Taxi driver and his rapist gang by the court order.
its my first time i,m pasting my comments on saudi gazzate,i use to live in this paninsula and i have experience of gulf countries injustice,all 4 men should be hanged or beheaded publically and poor girl set free.
» askary a first course of adultery in saudi | sanni posted... many askary working in saudi arabia especially in jedda airport ware posing the detainy to used the in segging. that si two bad this happen in muslim cauntry like saudi whare all muslim in world are proud to visit. pls the govt should take note an investigate matter to find out the truth. NB these that carry ladies to work for them at home are also among.
» | Tiff posted... Maybe the girl did have sex with a man.people lie.but the courts do seem to believe that it was not wanted,that it was in our words rape.The law is still in the wrong because they punish women weather it was rape or not.They don't care because they believe it to be adultery. Being a christian I know how important it is to not be an adultress.We doNOTbelieve rape is adultery cuz it is force.I know muslims who feel the same as I and most of you do.religion often is misinterpreted to suit lawmakers
» unfortunately the shariah is not being implemented from what i understand. the "laws" do not protect victims. saudi men are the only ones who benefit from these "laws." as a muslim i am disgusted by anyone who claims to be muslim and then misuses the religion to support whatever injustice they commit.
» they should wake up | saif posted... saudi people should wake up for true justic its really shame on all muslim people.
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